Comments on: Sunny and Warm, with Scattered Deaths - it’s the Future (Honest!) http://www.strettonclimatecare.org.uk/climate-change/sunny-and-warm-with-scattered-deaths-its-the-future-honest/ Think Globally, Act Locally Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:45:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Eco Warrior http://www.strettonclimatecare.org.uk/climate-change/sunny-and-warm-with-scattered-deaths-its-the-future-honest/#comment-1835 Eco Warrior Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:52:36 +0000 http://www.strettonclimatecare.org.uk/?p=1027#comment-1835 The disturbing thing about all the information available on Climate Change is that there are still far too many people not taking the facts seriously however they are interpreted (and thanks to MW for adding to the discussion.) You only have to look at the number of newly registered gas guzzling cars on our streets emitting over 300 grammes of CO2 per Km. Have the owners even given a thought to the kind of message that gives. Thankfully increasing numbers of residents in the Strettons are beginning to THINK about the consequences of their actions are are striving to live a lower carbon lifestyle. It's not us who will suffer but future generations. Well done to St. Lawrence's church for organising a family awareness raising afternoon and playing the Carbon Counting game. Keep up the good work Stretton Climate Care - you are making a difference. The disturbing thing about all the information available on Climate Change is that there are still far too many people not taking the facts seriously however they are interpreted (and thanks to MW for adding to the discussion.) You only have to look at the number of newly registered gas guzzling cars on our streets emitting over 300 grammes of CO2 per Km. Have the owners even given a thought to the kind of message that gives.
Thankfully increasing numbers of residents in the Strettons are beginning to THINK about the consequences of their actions are are striving to live a lower carbon lifestyle. It’s not us who will suffer but future generations. Well done to St. Lawrence’s church for organising a family awareness raising afternoon and playing the Carbon Counting game.
Keep up the good work Stretton Climate Care - you are making a difference.

]]> By: MW http://www.strettonclimatecare.org.uk/climate-change/sunny-and-warm-with-scattered-deaths-its-the-future-honest/#comment-1833 MW Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:27:45 +0000 http://www.strettonclimatecare.org.uk/?p=1027#comment-1833 Did you link to the wrong article when you risked frightening us even more? That AFP article doesn't say that 'emissions, atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, global temperatures and sea levels are all rising faster than the worst case scenarios explored by the IPCC in 2007'. It says that 'greenhouse gas emissions and other climate indicators are at or near the upper boundaries forecast by the IPCC' in 2007 (AR4). That is, some indicators - not including surface temperature, which is nowhere near the upper boundary - are said to be approaching or crossing the limits of AR4's worst-case projections but haven't exceeded them, so they can't have risen faster than feared.* If you're a True Believer, that might seem like a mere logic-chopper's quibble. Where is the harm in slightly overstating the science when faced by such a nightmarish threat? Well, it's because misrepresentations like these are so widespread (TV and the newspapers are even worse than blogs in some ways) that so many of us are so sceptical about the nightmare. Please be more careful in future. It takes a lot of time and costs a lot of brain-ache to verify such claims. It would be more efficient in every way (including CO2 emissions) if proper checks were done by the people who make claims about climate change rather than by those of us who read them. Regards MW *There's more but I want to keep this as brief as possible, so I won't go into the AFP article's misrepresentation of the report it reported on, or the misrepresented report's own misrepresentations of itself, the Copenhagen conference and the current science. Details on request. Also why the MIT study mentioned in the AFP article is irrelevant. And UKCP09. And recent rainfall in Shropshire. And another thing ... I shouldn't have to say this but: I'm not a 'denier'. Did you link to the wrong article when you risked frightening us even more? That AFP article doesn’t say that ‘emissions, atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, global temperatures and sea levels are all rising faster than the worst case scenarios explored by the IPCC in 2007′. It says that ‘greenhouse gas emissions and other climate indicators are at or near the upper boundaries forecast by the IPCC’ in 2007 (AR4). That is, some indicators - not including surface temperature, which is nowhere near the upper boundary - are said to be approaching or crossing the limits of AR4’s worst-case projections but haven’t exceeded them, so they can’t have risen faster than feared.*

If you’re a True Believer, that might seem like a mere logic-chopper’s quibble. Where is the harm in slightly overstating the science when faced by such a nightmarish threat? Well, it’s because misrepresentations like these are so widespread (TV and the newspapers are even worse than blogs in some ways) that so many of us are so sceptical about the nightmare. Please be more careful in future. It takes a lot of time and costs a lot of brain-ache to verify such claims. It would be more efficient in every way (including CO2 emissions) if proper checks were done by the people who make claims about climate change rather than by those of us who read them.

Regards

MW

*There’s more but I want to keep this as brief as possible, so I won’t go into the AFP article’s misrepresentation of the report it reported on, or the misrepresented report’s own misrepresentations of itself, the Copenhagen conference and the current science. Details on request. Also why the MIT study mentioned in the AFP article is irrelevant. And UKCP09. And recent rainfall in Shropshire. And another thing … I shouldn’t have to say this but: I’m not a ‘denier’.

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